Toys


TOY PROJECTORS

 

 

This page has an alphabetical listing of those I have come across or people have kindly sent - thanks to them all. If you are big into "toy" projectors/film viewers, Trevor Adams site http://www.filmstips.com is the place to go.

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toysThis is a complete, working Ace. I have placed a small tranny in the resistance case to provide power for a 12v 10w QI lamp, but left the resistance in place in case anyone should want to convert back. I have also carried an earth connection thru the resistance and onto the projector, bearing in mind the invariable rule that you cannot trust old wiring too far. It all works fine, but I wouldn't want anyone using a thing like this for anything other than demo purposes.

Alef

toys toys A toy 9.5 Alef from Dave Humphrey. See also the Alef page.

Astor

 

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These pix above are from Trevor Adams. Never heard of this one before, but it's a beaut, more like an editor/viewer than a projector.

toystoysThis Astor (tho' who knows if it is at all connected to the Astor company of the Cine-Viser?) has the added advantage of demonstrating one of the finest examples of bodgery in its class, with an attempt to fit sprockets using Meccano (TM) etc. (Actually, better executed it might even have worked.) Note how the retaining rollers are held - TIGHT - against the sprockets (if one can call them that), by a single spring for both sprockets! The Super Arms are missing but you can see where they would have fitted and the drive pulley for the take-up. Being a classy machine, it would have had a condenser lens (removable like B&H and so, naturally, removed from this one). The chitterling picture shows that, although there is a bit of casting right where the hole would be for a rear-mounted lamp as in the Bingoscope and Hunter versions (see below), this has not been bored and we have instead a lamp mounted on the side. I even have some Astor instructions, which show clearly how this variant lamp arrangement has simply been added to the basic drawing, as well as some Bingoscope instructions ( I simply have not been able to make out what the word was under a particularly awkward blob on the copy (see 6th pic below, RH column. Anybody know?)

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Bing

I have been taking a closer look at the Bing. The first four pix are courtesy Bob Andrews. You can see just how basic the mech is. At the top, a spindle with a metal strip that bends up and swings out of the way to insert a film. This enters and leaves the gate by way of the curved parts you can see protruding from the front of the gate. A simple bookleaf/spring arrangement allows the gate to pivot open. A single point claw, the small eccentric driven by the big gear. Note the slot where the claw arm pivots on the centre of this gear, providing in and out movement. The take-up is on the front of the big gear, giving ample opportunities for oil transfer. A tiny bulb, a fixed lens, so no focussing. Most especially, no shutter! The mind boggles. The last three pix are courtesy Trevor Adams in NZ - I didn't even realise there WAS a clockwork Bing! The mech looks even more basic - no big gear! Where do all these collectors dig them up? I suppose they spend all their time on the internet and at car boot sales instead of keeping web sites up to date.

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Bingoscope

toys toys toys I found a Bingoscope lurking. You don't have to look that closely to see it's the same as the Hunter (or vice versa), whatever the label says. I wonder if there was a Gamages version? Has anyone got a machine of the same pattern but yet another badge? Middle is another minor variant.

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Here is a Hunter, basically just a toy machine. As you can see, it's in pretty good shape. Except that it isn't, as the un-doctored photo shows. It's so easy to do this sort of thing today. There is another very much like it, called an Astor (see above) and there may be more; it seems to have been a badge engineering or supermarket own brand approach. Below is an article on the Bingoscope machines from the New Zealand cine collectors' club mag.

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Hard to imagine anyone wanting them, but here are some instructions for a Bingoscope. They seem to be only a photocopy, since a printed admonition that the lenses and film guide-way "are apt to collect dirt", which should be removed, was over the top corner of the leaflet. I have removed this and re-constituted what would have been underneath. Enjoy. I simply have not been able to make out what the word was under a particularly awkward blob on the copy (see 2nd pic below, RH column. Anybody know?

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Found I had these pix of a Bingoscope variant. I don't know where I got them; I suspect Trevor Adams, as it's like one in the above article he sent me.

 

 

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What strikes me is that it looks very like the Coronet (see first pic under Coronet and Dekko below) only more elegant because of the nicely rounded look.

 

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Cinette

toys toys The Cinette 16 was spotted at Argenteuil; the second pic is one that appeared on eBay.

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Cum-O-Graph

Trevor Adams' recent bombardment of me with pix of fascinating projectors began because I queried the name of one of the ones he had sent previously as being unsuitable for a decent, respectable web site. The machine in question was sold by a man called Cummings under the dubious name of Cum-0-Graph. Trev also sent the following reminiscence.......... I added the (y).

"In the "old days", kids were encouraged, by certain seed(y?) companies, to become door-to-door salesmen. The company sent you (the kid), a parcel of seed packets which you then sold to long suffering relatives and neighbours. Money received was returned to the parent seed company and as a reward they sent you (the kid), a crystal radio or Daisy BB gun or a book (yuk), or a Cum-O-Graph projector! Although these machines had wee paraffin lamps, Cummings supplied directions for converting them to electricity. The C-O-G came as 28mm or 35mm (don't think you got a choice). Now this form of "reward for services rendered" existed right up into my
childhood. I sold my seeds and took a Daisy BB gun as payment though! "

 

What a great story!

 

Delta/Homray

This is all I have on this machine. Note the change of company name (and base price).

 

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EKA

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Eka made toy machines in several gauges. here are 9.5 (green) and 35 (red).

Excel

toys The Excel looks like it have the evil auto-threading and/or lack of sprockets.

Among the stuff Trevor Adams has sent me are pix of a very posh (relative to other models) Excel, the Excel 77.

 

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Note that you only get a single sprocket, but above the gate you get a springy thing, which presumably takes

some of the "snatch" out of the top feed.

Here's a mucky one.

 

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Kid

I have been partially dismantling a Kid. Here are some pix for you, plus a complete one, wiv Super arms but no motor; the little black box holds a tranny for a 12v 10w QI lamp.

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I can't make up my mind whether to be impressed by the ingenuity that packs claw, shutter and notching mechanism into such a tiny space, or appalled at what a nasty little thing it is, wondering how Pathescope dared to inflict such a thing on an unsuspecting public at such an outrageous price (55/- (2.75), for a few sheets of pressed tinplate).

The big issue, of course, is that gate; it don't open. Even Pathescope saw the problem and introduced the Imp - essentially, the same again but with a tilt-back lamphouse like the Baby/Home Movie. This Kid feature must have been responsible for so many scratched films, and yet, and yet.....a vigorously wielded gate brush, with the notching device engaged so the claw is withdrawn, could have done so much. But Joe Public don't do proper maintenance. The construction is an odd mix of labour-intensive, with lots of nuts and bolts, and flimsy - the notching mech involves very light springs and thin flexible strips. As ever, of course, it was taken far beyond any reasonable compass for a sprocketless machine by the addition of Super Arms - think what havoc that pull on the film against the claw must have wrought. Here also is a much better pic from David Richardson, of a French Kid. Note it hav a resistance in the base. The ads look better, too.

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And if you think you know a real loopy UK cinéaste, think again -the really strange one lives in France. Dino Everett found this Krazy Kid on offer on eBay......

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LaPierre

 

I've never had one of these; I think they look kinda cute, tho' they clearly belong in the toy category.

 

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Now I do have some, an RL 52-C and an L60. I have actually run a film thru the LaPierre RL 52-C. What I thought was an ominously-loud clattering from the mech turned out to be the operation of a Maltese cross type intermittent. I had not actually had my hands on one of these before so hadn't realised this. It should mean that at least some of the risks of sprocketless machines are reduced as there is no claw to punch holes or tear film - a sprocket has a much greater wraparound and can keep the picture steady despite the pull of the take-up. For what it is, the film transport mech seems quite good, tho' noisy - the Maltese cross is of course external and not in an oil-bath. I do not know if the lamp is original - it looks like a standard bayonet cap candle bulb - but anyway, the light output is atrocious, tho' the pic as I have suggested is quite steady. I wonder what a 12v 50w dichroic could do ........ You'd probably have to replace the lens as well which, realistically, means a new lens-holder, too.

 

Mirage (9.5)

I don't need to do this one as it's covered at http://pierreg.free.fr/cine95/mater/projo/mirage.htm.

 

Movie Viewer

toys toys An odd little item from Trevor Adams. Imaginative name.

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Mynette

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This Mynette looks an awful lot like a Ray - or vice versa.

Piccolo

Dave Humphrey has sent some pix of a very neat little Piccolo. He says that thing on the top of the gate

is a springy guide, presumably to take some of the strain of the lack of top sprocket.

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My own Piccolo is muckier than Dave's. Aren't they actually supposed to be Norris's anyway?

 

Plank

 

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This says Plank Ozophan on the side but a) looks suspiciously like a Norris and b) has no special arrangements such as one would expect if the machine really was meant to handle the thin, fragile Ozophane film.

 

 

PPC

Dave Richardson sent these pix of "The World's Smallest Cine Projector" and the first cutting.The 2nd cutting was sent in by Dave Humphrey.

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Got some additional pix from the New Zealand branch of the hobby, courtesy Trevor Adams. These are from their mag. Some time later, I discovered an ad in ACW Jan 1935.

 

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Radex

Dave Richardson sent this ad for the Radex. Anyone for a relaxing hot bath?

 

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Ray

First time I've come across an ad for this. I might have known Trevor Adams in NZ would have one; here it is, plus another ad he found.

 

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Mikael Barnard has acquired a couple of Ray machines, which show interesting (to a certain kind of mind!) variations.

 

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This first one is like the one Trevor Adams has. The tranny is brown and is labelled "3/5/8V. 0.1 AMP", which I guess would just flood the screen with light. Wiring the 3 outputs in various combinations gives the various voltages, tho' as it is also labelled 200 - 250 Volts these must be pretty approximate. The maker's plate is a printed metal job. Note the neat, chemically-blackened interior components, with a reciprocating shutter (The similar-looking Bing has no shutter).

 

 

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In a bit more detail, here is what I assume to be a later model. The base is now wooden but, as it has eg slots for the back plate to fit into, is presumably original. The "maker's plate" is now a stick-on paper thing, tho' it is red and we do get a red flash on the flywheel (the addition of colour is a bit like a "go-faster" stripe on a modern car). The internal blackening is gone, tho' the brass is not unappealing. I have shown the reciprocating shutter in both up and down positions. Note the addition of velvet pads above and below the gate; scratching must have been bad without it if they went to the trouble. The tranny is now black and now says 200 - 250v and 6v 0.8w, a veritable searchlight by comparison with the earlier model.

The spool-holding arrangements seem to be designed for 60ft reels/cassettes; the 30-footer looks uncomfortable. The older model has a spring on the retaining arm; the later one doesn't, tho' this could have been lost, but does have an added retaining thing at the top of the back plate. Perhaps spring-loading did not work well with open reels, as it would be pressing on the film, maybe scratching it, maybe catching on the reel. I can't figure the rewind. There is a blind hole in the back of the plate the reel sits against. I could see this working with one of those cassette rewinding doovers, pushed thru the core of a cassette, engaging the cassette's slot and riding in the blind hole. Except the cassette has to be mounted the wrong way round for that to work. I fear we may have to break with all established practice and consult the instructions. Anyone got some?